[Solved] Help required setting up two routers to extend wireless range

[seedy21]

Hi Ray

Sorry for been late at replying. Just been a bit busy with work which is alway's a good thing !

Is your Second router running the same SSID and password compared to R1?

If thats the case you should have R2 the same channel as R1. Some chipsets get upset if your moving rooms and having to change channels.

Seedy21

Edit
here is an image on how channels work . Thought this would be useful for you and KenB

 

[Ray1000]

Thank you Seedy,

I've set both channels on 11 and I have full coverage over the house as I did at post 15 when I had them both on 11 "by mistake" (At that point I thought they needed to be different)

I still don't have the capacity for connecting to WiFi from the conservatory for instance ... I have to be physically nearer to R1 than R2 to do the initial connection.

TalkTalk said something about their routers not being "Repeating" type and you could never connect to two routers ... you needed to buy an "after market" "independent" router to overcome it. (Not sure if I'm using the correct terms) I'm wondering if by chance my original Huawei HG533 wasn't "locked"

Or ... if I still have a setting that needs changing .... I'll upload a picture of one of the settings pages I'm not sure about later.

Ray

 

[Ray1000]

http://www.freepchelp.uk/asset.php?fid=2118&uid=17618&d=1402138451

One of the R2 set up pages

The warehouse username and password are nothing to do with me ... I wonder if this should be changed to match R1 Broadband settings, also the connection type and pending looks a bit odd.

Ray

 

[seedy21]

Hi Ray

The link you added is invalided. Can you upload the picture again.

Its true that some router do and some don't let you use them as a bridge mode.

A third party example of a Wi-fi repeater would be a unit like this.

Lets have another stab at this.

I will need you to grab the laptop and go into R2. Turn the wi-fi off on the laptop and plug it into R2 router.

We need to run a Command with Command Prompt

Click on Start, click on Run and type in "cmd.exe" and click Run.
Type in the following line followed by clicking Enter

ipconfig /all > cmd.txt && Notepad cmd.txt

If they was no errors please exit Command Prompt.

This will have created a Textfile called cmd. Please copy and paste the contents into your next reply.

Seedy21

 

[Ray1000]

From Laptop wired into R2

Windows IP Configuration


Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Jack-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No


Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:


Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-95-33-95
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d10e:7268:9697:88bc%12(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 04 June 2014 09:00:45
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 05 June 2014 09:00:46
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::1%12
192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 268443904
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-E7-11-70-00-22-64-77-52-C0
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{0956FAA2-4E53-411A-9EB4-615404C440D2}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{DEF04CD5-30C7-454A-84E1-564504DEF5C4}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:


Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:9d38:90d7:2841:2f7:3f57:fefb(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::2841:2f7:3f57:fefb%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

 

[Ray1000]

As you can tell I haven't got the hang of the Albums and Photos yet ...

I was trying to show you the WAN section of the set up as I'm not sure if I have the connection type set properly.

http://www.freepchelp.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=2228&thumb=1&d=1402172377

http://www.freepchelp.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=2227&thumb=1&d=1402172361

"I still don't have the capacity for connecting to WiFi from the conservatory for instance ... I have to be physically nearer to R1 than R2 to do the initial connection"

This is the only difference now, to a month ago ... I double-checked this with my son today ... he would come home from work, turn his Galaxy Note on in the conservatory and connect wirelessly via R2 ... now he needs to go into the room containing Router 1 ... connect via wireless ... go back into the conservatory and use the 5 bar wireless signal coming from R2.

Thanks for your patience

Ray

 

[seedy21]

Hi Ray

Looks like you didn't follow my steps correctly

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:


Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-95-33-95
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d10e:7268:9697:88bc%12(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 04 June 2014 09:00:45
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 05 June 2014 09:00:46
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::1%12
192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 268443904
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-E7-11-70-00-22-64-77-52-C0
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

1). Your Wi-fi was turned on when you ran the test
2). Your Ethernet cable didn't look like it was connected.

Please run the test again with the WI-FI on the laptop turned off and with a wire going from R2 to the Laptop.

Did you delete the images above. When I went to view them they say invalid Photo links again

Thank you


Seedy21

 

[Ray1000]

Sorry about that I'll have another go ... There's a wireless switch on the laptop that I assumed turned it off, I'll make certain it won't connect wirelessly first this time.

Hopefully the pictures are back on ... I removed - cropped - and replaced them ... I Hope!

Ray

 

[seedy21]

Hi Ray

looks like you fixed the Pictures problem.

Just some more questions

When you connected to R2 is it still on the same manual address we gave it? I think it was 192.168.1.2 ?

On your settings it looks like they is a Bridge option.

Go back to the R2 WAN Settings page. Under PPPoA Make sure WAN Connection is Unticked. Under Bridge mode, Mark sure Port binding as LAN 1 or LAN 2 selected on with Port the Cable from R1 to R2 is on . Also make sure DHCP transparent tranmisson is checked. Save the settings and reboot R2. Can you test after this?

 

[Ray1000]

Hi Seedy,

I may have to leave those checks while tomorrow ... its my turn to get the supper ready! ... in the meantime here's another log ... everything wireless in our house was off including the wireless switch on the laptop ... having said that in the notification bar at the bottom right it did say there was an unknown connection ... I assumed it meant the physical connection between the laptop and the R2 router via Ethernet cable. The ADSL wasn't connected by the way ... not sure if it needed to be.

Ray



Windows IP Configuration


Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Jack-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No


Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-95-33-95
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:


Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d21:9138:79d1:de1b%10(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.222.27(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{0956FAA2-4E53-411A-9EB4-615404C440D2}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{DEF04CD5-30C7-454A-84E1-564504DEF5C4}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

 

[Ray1000]

The ip address for the R2 is 192.168.1.7 set manually the other day.

The same address is set as a static one on R1 using the MAC address to identify it ... (if I'm using the right terms)

Just going to have a quick go at the Bridge setting ...

Edit .... I'll have a look in the morning ... the boxes in Bridge are untickable at the moment ... It may be I have missed a submit button or something

Ray

 

[seedy21]

That log explains the problem so far.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:


Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d21:9138:79d1:de1b%10(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.222.27(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

This would explain why you have a WI-FI connection, but no Internet. The DHCP settings are not getting to R2. Try with the New settings I asked and let me know how it goes.

its my turn to get the supper ready!

Enjoy cooking

 

[Ray1000]

Go back to the R2 WAN Settings page. Under PPPoA Make sure WAN Connection is Unticked. Under Bridge mode, Mark sure Port binding as LAN 1 or LAN 2 selected on with Port the Cable from R1 to R2 is on . Also make sure DHCP transparent tranmisson is checked. Save the settings and reboot R2. Can you test after this?

Had another go at this ... Under PPPoA Make sure WAN Connection is Unticked ... That is straightforward.

Under Bridge mode, Mark sure Port binding as LAN 1 or LAN 2 selected on with Port the Cable from R1 to R2 is on . Also make sure DHCP transparent transmission is checked ... I understand this but there are no options to tick any of the boxes ... apart from another WAN connection box in the Bridge page which doesn't make any difference ... the boxes I'm wanting to tick are in grey.

Ray

 

[seedy21]

Hi Ray.

Can you run that Command with the cable that joins R1 to R2 in the laptop with the wi-fi off?

I am thinking that you can't run the bridge mode. It looks to be locked out by the software.

 

[Ray1000]

Can you run that Command with the cable that joins R1 to R2 in the laptop with the wi-fi off?

Hi Seedy,

This probably tells you something but no the laptop can't connect to the R2 down the 10 metre cable between R1 and R2 it just says web page unavailable.

I'm just trying some thing else .... Here is a log we'll refer to as from the White Router ... I'm posting it now while I have the laptop connected ... will come back to it shortly.

Ray

 

[Ray1000]

Ooops ... Back on the desktop now ... I can see the log didn't paste ... will have to do that again later.

I have a White Router Dlink DSL2680 ... Connected it to the laptop changed the usernames and passwords to match R1 - Chose Bridge Mode -changed the IP address to 192.168.1.7 - Disabled DHCP server - Changed wireless channel to 11 to match R1 - Made a cmd log at this point but evidently didn't paste it into the previous post ... now lost, or will it still be on the laptop Notepad?

Turned the routers off and back on.

Connected the White Router to the Ethernet cable in the lounge and ...

You can now log on in the lounge/conservatory/garden using the White R2
As you walk towards R1 the wireless signal diminishes It may have always been like this ... I never took notice before.
If you log on near R1 and walk through the hall/kitchen/conservatory and into the garden the wireless signal stays, and increases as you pass R2
I haven't gone back into R1 and reset the Static IP as I wasn't sure about the MAC address of the white router ... it says MAC ID BCF685ADE0DA on the back, presumably this is it?

Are there any useful logs I can do while its all connected/

Ray

 

[Ray1000]

I think this is the log I made of the White Router while connected to the laptop with the wireless turned off.(Mentioned above)


Windows IP Configuration


Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Jack-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : dlink.com


Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-00-95-33-95
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:


Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : dlink.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562GT 10/100 Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-64-77-52-C0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d21:9138:79d1:de1b%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 08 June 2014 20:12:26
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 09 June 2014 20:12:25
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : dlink.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{DEF04CD5-30C7-454A-84E1-564504DEF5C4}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes


Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:


Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

 

[seedy21]

HI Ray

That log looks good. Cant see any bad problems there.

Looks like you may have to keep the White Router if this has fixed your problem

 

[Ray1000]

I thought I would give this a couple of days just to make sure it continued to work properly.

There's a detail I need help with just to finish it off ...

In the DSL3780 Advanced LAN Setup page under the DHCP Table heading I still have 192.168.1.7 ( Secondary router IP address ) statically attached to the previous R2 routers MAC address.

I wanted to changed this to reflect the MAC address of the new White Router but there doesn't seem to be a way of deleting the old entry.

The table seems to allocate the next address, in my case 192.168.1.10 to any new MAC

I realise I could do that and then change the IP of the R2 to match but wondered if there was a way to keep it at 7

Or ... is it that now we are in Bride mode the Static address no longer applies?

Ray

 

[seedy21]

HI Ray

Can you change the Mac Address that is attach to the reserve on 192.168.1.7?

If not, I think i would recommend leaving it where it is. A quote comes to mind.....

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.


Seedy21